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Mars or Bust: Addressing the Shuttle in the Room

Published: May 28 2026

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It’s Mars or the highway for Jon. His license plate, emblazoned with “Go2Mars”, has been bolted to his truck since 1993, serving as a red-planet expedition campaign on wheels. He says the best things in space haven’t happened yet—so what’s ahead?

From sitting in the commander’s seat in Atlantis to managing “a company called SpaceX” in a new ‘commercial crew’ program back in 2011, Jon stresses the importance of maintaining that forward momentum into the next big leap towards Mars.

Join your host Danielle and retired NASA engineer and project manager Jon Cowart in a conversation about the “amazing orchestra of things” that make up NASA’s past and present, and how it shapes future space history.

Have any questions? Message us on social at @ExploreSpaceKSC on X and @kennedyspacecenter on Facebook and Instagram. Go beyond and discover something real at Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex.

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